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Navigating Burnout: A 2023 Podcast Compendium Series (Part 1)


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Understanding Burnout: Unraveling the threads of burnout, distinguishing it from depression, and exploring its multifaceted impact on our lives.

Over the past 11 months, I have interviewed numerous guests for the Decode Your Burnout podcast. You may have listened in on these conversations, but their essence bears repeating. Given the scope of this project, I put together a six-part series, the first of which is about understanding the phenomenon known as “burnout.”

Our journey through the realm of burnout began with a simple question: What exactly is burnout, and how does it differ from other forms of mental and emotional fatigue? As we listened to the profound insights shared by our esteemed guests, we discovered that burnout is not just a personal crisis but a societal one, calling for a deeper understanding and more nuanced conversation.

Each episode has been a piece of the puzzle, contributing to a comprehensive picture of burnout. Our panels on absenteeism, productivity, and morale offered real-life anecdotes and strategies to combat the silent epidemic that burnout has become in the workplace.

As we peel back the layers of burnout in this series, we will illuminate the signs that often go unnoticed, the prevention strategies that can be life-changing, and the recovery paths that lead to renewed passion and purpose.

Whether you’re a long-time listener or new to our community, this series is your invitation to revisit these powerful episodes. Let them be your guide as you navigate the challenges of burnout, armed with the knowledge and tools to not only survive but thrive.

The Many Faces of Burnout

When I created the Decode Your Burnout podcast, I did so because I wanted the world to understand that people burn out for different reasons. While we have external circumstances that contribute to our chronic stress levels, it’s also true that our personalities, our beliefs, and our coping are large contributors to how we feel at work. I say this not to point the finger in blame. It is NOT your fault if you’re burned out. Instead, it is meant to be empowering because those are the exact factors over which you have control. With this notion in mind, each guest brings a unique perspective, shedding light on the multifaceted nature of this condition.

How Moments of Wonder Can Transform Your Burnout

In the episode “From Awful to Awe: How Moments of Wonder Can Transform Your Burnout,” Dr. Amster delves into the unexpected remedy of awe to combat burnout.

At first glance, awe might seem like a luxury, reserved for extraordinary circumstances and exceptional individuals. Yet, Dr. Amster demystifies this notion, revealing how awe is not just accessible but essential for everyone. His approach pivots on the idea that awe can reset our nervous system, offering a powerful antidote to the numbing effects of burnout.

Dr. Amster dispels common myths, including the belief that awe is the sole province of the extraordinary. He elucidates that awe doesn’t necessitate grandeur or rarity. Instead, it can be found in the simplicity of everyday life – in a child’s laughter, the intricate pattern of a leaf, or the serene stillness of a morning. This accessibility of awe makes it a practical tool in our arsenal against burnout.

Another misconception Dr. Amster addresses is the fleeting nature of awe. Contrary to the belief that awe is a transient emotional high with no lasting impact, he underscores its profound and enduring effects on our nervous system. Awe, he explains, has the capacity to decrease anxiety, depression, and symptoms of burnout. It’s not a mere ephemeral experience but a state that can lead to lasting psychological benefits.

Dr. Amster introduces a simple yet powerful method to harness the benefits of awe: the ‘AWE’ practice.

‘A’ for attention – directing our focus to something we appreciate.

‘W’ stands for wait, a mindful pause to marinate in the moment.

‘E’ is for exhale, stimulating the vagus nerve, which plays a crucial role in our parasympathetic nervous system.

This practice encourages an expansion of our experiences, allowing them to become part of our being.

Perhaps the most striking aspect of awe is its contagious nature. Sharing our experiences of awe can inspire similar feelings in others, creating a ripple effect of positive emotional states. This communal aspect of awe underscores its potential as a tool not just for individual well-being but also for fostering collective resilience.

Dr. Amster’s conversation with us illuminates a path out of the burnout maze – a path paved with the simple, yet profound moments of awe that life generously offers. His insights challenge us to shift our focus from the overwhelming to the awe-inspiring, reminding us that the antidote to our burnout may lie in the very world we often overlook.

Burnout vs. Depression

As a single mother living on welfare in subsidized housing, Wendy Nickerson faced immense challenges that led to her burnout. Her experience is a testament to the fact that burnout is not a condition reserved for the overambitious or the workaholic; it can touch anyone who is stretched too thin, regardless of their life circumstances.

One of the most critical distinctions Nickerson draws is between burnout and depression. While often conflated, she clarifies that these are distinct states. Burnout, as she describes, is akin to a system shutdown – where the immune and digestive systems are among the first to bear the brunt. It’s a state of complete exhaustion, not just mental or emotional, but physical as well.

Depression, on the other hand, relates more closely to being off-course from one’s mission in life and a depletion of serotonin levels. Nickerson’s insight here is crucial – understanding this distinction can lead to more effective approaches in addressing each condition.

Nickerson also delves into the stigma and shame often associated with burnout. She addresses the internal dialogue that many face: feelings of inadequacy, the fear of not being good enough, or strong enough. By sharing her journey, she shines a light on these often-unspoken aspects of burnout, offering solace and understanding to those who might be silently struggling.

Her approach to overcoming burnout involves a holistic blend of reducing workloads, setting boundaries (especially in work-from-home scenarios), and, importantly, finding spiritual meaning. It’s this latter point that resonates deeply – the idea that aligning with our purpose for being here on earth can be both a preventive and curative measure against burnout.

Nickerson’s contribution to the discourse on burnout is a powerful reminder that the journey to recovery is as much about self-compassion and understanding as it is about practical steps and strategies. Her story encourages listeners to recognize the signs of burnout early and to approach it with a mind, body, and spirit perspective.

Decoding Burnout Through Personal Development

Arel Moodie came onto the show to talk about the interplay between Adult Development Theory and burnout. He began by mapping out the stages of adult development and how they intersect with the three distinct burnout personalities. Each stage of development, as he explains, comes with its own set of strengths, motivators, and, crucially, limiting beliefs and fears.

For instance, in the Self-centric stage, while strengths like self-awareness and survival instincts are prominent, you may also grapple with fears like the loss of control and abandonment. In the Group-centric stage, the strengths of empathy and group identity coexist with fears of isolation and group conflict.

Sharon Grossman, PhD
Sharon Grossman, PhDhttps://drsharongrossman.com/
Dr. Sharon Grossman is a burnout recovery coach, speaker, and author of the Amazon bestseller, The 7E Solution to Burnout, who is hired by Fortune 500 companies and their executives to crack the code on burnout and created custom-tailored solutions for recovery. If you've tried workshops and therapy and feel like nothing sticks, working with Dr. Sharon will show you how you can totally transform your relationship with your work by working on yourself instead of trying to change your job or career. She’s shared her grounded yet practical approach with numerous organizations, nonprofits, and universities. You can find her on her weekly podcast, Decode Your Burnout, and reach her on her website drsharongrossman.com for speaking, coaching, and consulting inquiries.

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